Comments on: Why I Want To Kill The Heroine… http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/ Ten Authors. Five Genres. One Blog. Because the only thing scarier than a loaded gun pointed at your head....is writing about it. Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:59:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jen Apodaca http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221548 Jen Apodaca Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:13:53 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221548 C.J., oh yeah, dialogue! My pet peeve is when the men talk like girls. Or repeating things in dialogue that we just saw in the scene (which I'm sure I've done!) C.J., oh yeah, dialogue! My pet peeve is when the men talk like girls. Or repeating things in dialogue that we just saw in the scene (which I’m sure I’ve done!)

]]> By: C.J. Redwine http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221539 C.J. Redwine Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:19:54 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221539 I am a huge fan of "show", not "tell". I can't stand being "told" a character is ___fill in appropriate adjective here___ when there's no evidence in that character's actions to back it up. I also detest when dialogue sounds nothing like the way real people talk. I read a book recently where a female character told a male character that he had "casual good looks". What woman talks like that??! =) I am a huge fan of “show”, not “tell”. I can’t stand being “told” a character is ___fill in appropriate adjective here___ when there’s no evidence in that character’s actions to back it up.

I also detest when dialogue sounds nothing like the way real people talk. I read a book recently where a female character told a male character that he had “casual good looks”. What woman talks like that??! =)

]]> By: Jen http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221538 Jen Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:36:08 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221538 Elaine, ooh! Good one! The heroine who is never wrong. Sure, we could have a bug fly into her mouth and choke her--works for me. Natalie, LOL! Too true! Karin, I'm ready to shoot this heroine. For now, I've switched to reading another book. Allison, you're right--whiny is heroic. Acting out of character (unless forced to) is another good one. Elaine, ooh! Good one! The heroine who is never wrong. Sure, we could have a bug fly into her mouth and choke her–works for me.

Natalie, LOL! Too true!

Karin, I’m ready to shoot this heroine. For now, I’ve switched to reading another book.

Allison, you’re right–whiny is heroic. Acting out of character (unless forced to) is another good one.

]]> By: Allison Brennan http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221537 Allison Brennan Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:58:52 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221537 But Natalie, whiny people exist and we want to shoot them, and it's very bad to want to shoot the heroine . . . My biggest pet peeve is being stupid. Any character. They need to be smart, or at least logical FOR THEIR CHARACTER. Anyone who acts out of character immediately throws me out of the story. It's why I couldn't buy into Anakin in episode III killing the kids. I could see him going to the dark side, but I couldn't see this happening--not with Padme pregnant. I'm still pissed off about it. I COULD have bought into it if it had been built up differently, but it was rushed. Now Obi Wan leaving Anakin dying at the lava planet when some people have suggested that he should have killed him, I'd argue that this WAS in Obi Wan's character. He thought Anakin was going to die, he couldn't kill an injured man, someone he loved. Totally in character. But Natalie, whiny people exist and we want to shoot them, and it’s very bad to want to shoot the heroine . . .

My biggest pet peeve is being stupid. Any character. They need to be smart, or at least logical FOR THEIR CHARACTER. Anyone who acts out of character immediately throws me out of the story. It’s why I couldn’t buy into Anakin in episode III killing the kids. I could see him going to the dark side, but I couldn’t see this happening–not with Padme pregnant. I’m still pissed off about it. I COULD have bought into it if it had been built up differently, but it was rushed. Now Obi Wan leaving Anakin dying at the lava planet when some people have suggested that he should have killed him, I’d argue that this WAS in Obi Wan’s character. He thought Anakin was going to die, he couldn’t kill an injured man, someone he loved. Totally in character.

]]> By: Karin http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221536 Karin Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:49:19 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221536 your post made me smile, Jen. Whiny heroines? Shoot 'em. your post made me smile, Jen. Whiny heroines? Shoot ‘em.

]]> By: Natalie http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221535 Natalie Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:41:53 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221535 Come on, whiny heroines are just true to life. I mean, THINK about all the whiny people you know..... Come on, whiny heroines are just true to life. I mean, THINK about all the whiny people you know…..

]]> By: Elaine http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221534 Elaine Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:36:38 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221534 What bugs me as a reader? When the hero or heroine is never, ever wrong. About anything. How about having that whiny heroine choke to death on the bug that flies into her mouth when she is once again going on and on and on, whining about something or other. It would have to be a pretty big bug, I guess, but it'd be relatively quick, and even if it isn't...she's choking on a bug, so she can't whine. :smile: What bugs me as a reader? When the hero or heroine is never, ever wrong. About anything.

How about having that whiny heroine choke to death on the bug that flies into her mouth when she is once again going on and on and on, whining about something or other. It would have to be a pretty big bug, I guess, but it’d be relatively quick, and even if it isn’t…she’s choking on a bug, so she can’t whine. :smile:

]]> By: Jen http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221533 Jen Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:54:04 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221533 Erin, Duck Pecked To Death, it has a ring to it! Amanda, I did sort of lecture, didn't I? I hate doing that. But I'm glad you got something out of it! Cele! ROTF... I love supergluing her lips! That's a great idea! Why aren't your writing books? You have the best imagination! Amy, all great points! And who hasn't been dealt a bad hand at some point in life? Erin, Duck Pecked To Death, it has a ring to it!

Amanda, I did sort of lecture, didn’t I? I hate doing that. But I’m glad you got something out of it!

Cele! ROTF… I love supergluing her lips! That’s a great idea! Why aren’t your writing books? You have the best imagination!

Amy, all great points! And who hasn’t been dealt a bad hand at some point in life?

]]> By: Amy Addison http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221532 Amy Addison Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:45:03 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221532 LOL on the ways to kill the heroine. As for me, It's a toss-up between whiny heroines and heroines who are just plain too stupid to live as the bigger pet peeve in reading. Most of those heroines don't make it past page ten with me. I don't mind a heroine who's been dealt a bad hand, as long as she's doing something instead of whining about it. LOL on the ways to kill the heroine.

As for me, It’s a toss-up between whiny heroines and heroines who are just plain too stupid to live as the bigger pet peeve in reading. Most of those heroines don’t make it past page ten with me. I don’t mind a heroine who’s been dealt a bad hand, as long as she’s doing something instead of whining about it.

]]> By: Cele http://www.murdershewrites.com/2008/04/28/why-i-want-to-kill-the-heroine/#comment-221531 Cele Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:25:55 +0000 http://www.murdershewrites.com/?p=768#comment-221531 How are we suppose to believe that a whiny heroine is worth the rescue... could figure out the mystery on her own...and save the world when all the world wants to do is muzzle her? Argh. as for killing her, it should begin with a muzzle, say super glue her lips accidently together when she breaks a nail and can't open the glue so she uses her teeth to remove the applicator. Hey, it could happen... alot. How are we suppose to believe that a whiny heroine is worth the rescue… could figure out the mystery on her own…and save the world when all the world wants to do is muzzle her? Argh.

as for killing her, it should begin with a muzzle, say super glue her lips accidently together when she breaks a nail and can’t open the glue so she uses her teeth to remove the applicator. Hey, it could happen… alot.

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